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		<title>By: North Korean Economy Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reunification costs</title>
		<link>http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2009/09/21/goldman-sachs-on-korean-unification/#comment-172434</link>
		<dc:creator>North Korean Economy Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reunification costs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Global Economics Paper No. 188: A United Korea? Reassessing North Korea Risks Goldman Sachs Slobal ECS Asia research Goohoon Kwon, CFA September 2009 (Post here) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Global Economics Paper No. 188: A United Korea? Reassessing North Korea Risks Goldman Sachs Slobal ECS Asia research Goohoon Kwon, CFA September 2009 (Post here) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: North Korean Economy Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; China and DPRK mineral wealth</title>
		<link>http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2009/09/21/goldman-sachs-on-korean-unification/#comment-158671</link>
		<dc:creator>North Korean Economy Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; China and DPRK mineral wealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this week valuing reserves at $6,000bn (€4,070bn, £3,670bn). Encouraged by data on metals, Goldman Sachs last month predicted the economy of a unified Korea could rival Japan’s by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this week valuing reserves at $6,000bn (€4,070bn, £3,670bn). Encouraged by data on metals, Goldman Sachs last month predicted the economy of a unified Korea could rival Japan’s by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jarra</title>
		<link>http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2009/09/21/goldman-sachs-on-korean-unification/#comment-157222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

The UK&#039;s economy is smaller than that of Germany or Japan ;) Which just goes to reinforce my point. Once you&#039;ve equipped your workers with modern technology your growth is mostly limited to following technological advances or expanding your population... or speculation. Consequently developed countries end up pretty even.

Even assuming the wild speculation comes true and there is reunification in the near future followed by rapid economic development it&#039;s still not going to end up with an economy bigger than Japan or Germany. Unless it also exceeds them by population. It could well however surpass that of France or the UK :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>The UK&#8217;s economy is smaller than that of Germany or Japan <img src='http://www.nkeconwatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Which just goes to reinforce my point. Once you&#8217;ve equipped your workers with modern technology your growth is mostly limited to following technological advances or expanding your population&#8230; or speculation. Consequently developed countries end up pretty even.</p>
<p>Even assuming the wild speculation comes true and there is reunification in the near future followed by rapid economic development it&#8217;s still not going to end up with an economy bigger than Japan or Germany. Unless it also exceeds them by population. It could well however surpass that of France or the UK <img src='http://www.nkeconwatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chris green</title>
		<link>http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2009/09/21/goldman-sachs-on-korean-unification/#comment-157107</link>
		<dc:creator>chris green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jarra. Great Britain. 60 million people. If it all came true then the figures would be in the right ballpark, that&#039;s all.

In any case, regardless of the headline-grabber stats, I think the report also contains some pretty optimistic assumptions it&#039;s hard to envision coming true, while &quot;we believe that there persists a spirit of reconciliation, cooperation and unification based on mutual respect and trust&quot; is to give a huge amount of credit to a North Korean regime which seems mostly interested in power for its own sake.

On the other hand, it is helpful to reorientate the debate away from a German-style overnight reunification with all the prohibitive, politically untenable consequences that would bring with it and towards a somewhat unsavoury and certainly repressive federation of states, with little non-essential internal migration. The cost, potential, and the likelihood of its being acceptable to all (not just to the Northern leaders, but to the selfish, individualistic South Korean youth as well), have at least made such a scenario worthy of a Goldman Sachs report, which i reckon is positive no matter how flawed said report may be~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarra. Great Britain. 60 million people. If it all came true then the figures would be in the right ballpark, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>In any case, regardless of the headline-grabber stats, I think the report also contains some pretty optimistic assumptions it&#8217;s hard to envision coming true, while &#8220;we believe that there persists a spirit of reconciliation, cooperation and unification based on mutual respect and trust&#8221; is to give a huge amount of credit to a North Korean regime which seems mostly interested in power for its own sake.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it is helpful to reorientate the debate away from a German-style overnight reunification with all the prohibitive, politically untenable consequences that would bring with it and towards a somewhat unsavoury and certainly repressive federation of states, with little non-essential internal migration. The cost, potential, and the likelihood of its being acceptable to all (not just to the Northern leaders, but to the selfish, individualistic South Korean youth as well), have at least made such a scenario worthy of a Goldman Sachs report, which i reckon is positive no matter how flawed said report may be~</p>
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		<title>By: Jarra</title>
		<link>http://www.nkeconwatch.com/2009/09/21/goldman-sachs-on-korean-unification/#comment-157096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The South Korean population is 50million. The North Korean population is 20million. Thus logically a unified Korea would have a population of approximately 70million. Compared to the 80million of Germany or the 130 million of Japan it&#039;s hard to imagine how any self respecting economist could predict that it&#039;s economy would surpass that of Japan or Germany! That estimate sounds more like a journalist compared a very rough GDP forecast for a theoretically unified Korea 40 years in the future to the current GDP of Germany and Japan. Which is both stupid and wrong. Here&#039;s a hint Japan and Germany&#039;s GDP will also likely grow somewhat over the next 40 years ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The South Korean population is 50million. The North Korean population is 20million. Thus logically a unified Korea would have a population of approximately 70million. Compared to the 80million of Germany or the 130 million of Japan it&#8217;s hard to imagine how any self respecting economist could predict that it&#8217;s economy would surpass that of Japan or Germany! That estimate sounds more like a journalist compared a very rough GDP forecast for a theoretically unified Korea 40 years in the future to the current GDP of Germany and Japan. Which is both stupid and wrong. Here&#8217;s a hint Japan and Germany&#8217;s GDP will also likely grow somewhat over the next 40 years <img src='http://www.nkeconwatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: xyzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t they look at the South as a model?  The ROK after the war was in about the same condition that the North is in now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they look at the South as a model?  The ROK after the war was in about the same condition that the North is in now.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet the prospect of overtaking Japan in terms of GDP would make many South Koreans mouth water. Probably one of the best arguments if you want to convince them that quick reunification is a good idea.

But I doubt it would be politically possible to keep the North Koreans trapped in NK after a fall of the current regime. Would it have been politically possible to keep East and West Germany apart? Probably not. Maybe the ideal scenario is that the Dear Leader holds on to the power but introduces China-style reforms until a painless reunification is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the prospect of overtaking Japan in terms of GDP would make many South Koreans mouth water. Probably one of the best arguments if you want to convince them that quick reunification is a good idea.</p>
<p>But I doubt it would be politically possible to keep the North Koreans trapped in NK after a fall of the current regime. Would it have been politically possible to keep East and West Germany apart? Probably not. Maybe the ideal scenario is that the Dear Leader holds on to the power but introduces China-style reforms until a painless reunification is possible.</p>
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